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The Army Times Poll on Presidential Elections: Bye-bye Bama
Posted on October 18, 2008
Army Times Poll on Presidential Race
Source: http://www.militarytimes.com/static/projects/pages/081003_ep_2pp.pdf
(this shows the pie breakdowns - a visual).
Hat tip to Mike Thayer
Interesting Poll from our guys and gals serving… I’m glad to know our men and women in uniform know what’s right.
In case you missed this week’s issue of the Army Times here are the results of the Army Times’ poll of Military personnel re: the election (in percent):
*********McCain---Obama
Overall----68 --------23
Army-------68 --------23
Navy-------69 --------24
Air Force--67 --------24
Marines ---75 --------18
Retirees---72 --------20
White Non-Hispanic
-------------76 --------17
Hispanic---63 -------27
Black/African-American
-------------12 --------79
Enlisted---67 --------24
Officers---70 --------22
Follow this link to read the entire article and following comments from both sides.
Tuesday, October 21, 2008
HUH? What did you say Joe?
Hmmmmmmm....Joe Biden guaranteed us that if Obama is elected we will have a world crisis within the first 6 months, and also that Obama might not make the right decisions so we should stand by him anyway. Okay? Is he saying Obama isn't ready the world knows it so they will strike while we are down? I'm sorry, but this is not what I want in a president. I don't want one the world feels needs tested but one who has been tested. He is telling us we will have an international crisis if Obama is elected. Is he telling us it's not a good idea to elect an inexperienced candidate as president. Here is a link to the audio clip and below is the speech as I could find it on the net.
October 20th, 2008 10:36 AM Eastern
Biden: If Elected, The World Will Test Obama With A Crisis
by Aaron Bruns
SEATTLE, WA — Joe Biden says he’s certain that if Barack Obama is elected president, there will be an international crisis to test his strength within the first 6 months of his presidency.
“Mark my words. It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We’re about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America.” he told a fundraising crowd in the Pacific Northwest on Sunday. “Remember I said it standing here if you don’t remember anything else I said. Watch, we’re gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.”
“He’s gonna have to make some really tough - I don’t know what the decision’s gonna be, but I promise you it will occur. As a student of history and having served with seven presidents, I guarantee you it’s gonna happen.”
The Delaware Senator made similar remarks at a San Francisco fundraiser the day before. “We’re going to face a major international challenge. Because they’re going to want to test him, just like they did young John Kennedy. They’re going to want to test him. And they’re going to find out this guy’s got steel in his spine,” Biden said. He told the crowd to continue to stand by Obama and know they made the right choice even when the going gets tough.
The Democratic VP nominee has talked about the difficult environment the next president, no matter who he is, will step into — calling it the toughest since the Great Depression — but never before suggested that Obama in particular would be tested because of who he is.
The RNC and the McCain campaign both jumped on the remarks - with the McCain campaign claiming Biden guaranteed an international crisis in the event of an Obama election. South Carolina Senator and top McCain adviser Lindsey Graham already used the remark against the Obama campaign while introducing the Arizona Senator this morning.
In response, Biden spokesman David Wade says “Sen. Biden was making it clear that history has shown Presidents face challenges starting on day one, and with our nation fighting two wars and 21st century threats abroad, we know that we need steady leadership in tumultuous times, not the erratic lurching and stubborn ideology of John McCain.”
and another
At a fund-raiser Sunday night in Seattle, Democratic vice presidential nominee Joe Biden predicted that if Obama is elected, "It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy," who authorized the failed Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba three months after his inauguration in 1961, then faced the Cuban missile crisis the following year.
"Watch, we're going to have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy," Biden continued, according to press accounts. "As a student of history and having served with seven presidents, I guarantee you it's going to happen. . . . And he's going to need help."
In similar remarks at another event the same night, Biden quickly added that those who test Obama will quickly find out he has "a spine of steel."
Some food for thought here folks. Be sure to chew thoroughly.
October 20th, 2008 10:36 AM Eastern
Biden: If Elected, The World Will Test Obama With A Crisis
by Aaron Bruns
SEATTLE, WA — Joe Biden says he’s certain that if Barack Obama is elected president, there will be an international crisis to test his strength within the first 6 months of his presidency.
“Mark my words. It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We’re about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America.” he told a fundraising crowd in the Pacific Northwest on Sunday. “Remember I said it standing here if you don’t remember anything else I said. Watch, we’re gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.”
“He’s gonna have to make some really tough - I don’t know what the decision’s gonna be, but I promise you it will occur. As a student of history and having served with seven presidents, I guarantee you it’s gonna happen.”
The Delaware Senator made similar remarks at a San Francisco fundraiser the day before. “We’re going to face a major international challenge. Because they’re going to want to test him, just like they did young John Kennedy. They’re going to want to test him. And they’re going to find out this guy’s got steel in his spine,” Biden said. He told the crowd to continue to stand by Obama and know they made the right choice even when the going gets tough.
The Democratic VP nominee has talked about the difficult environment the next president, no matter who he is, will step into — calling it the toughest since the Great Depression — but never before suggested that Obama in particular would be tested because of who he is.
The RNC and the McCain campaign both jumped on the remarks - with the McCain campaign claiming Biden guaranteed an international crisis in the event of an Obama election. South Carolina Senator and top McCain adviser Lindsey Graham already used the remark against the Obama campaign while introducing the Arizona Senator this morning.
In response, Biden spokesman David Wade says “Sen. Biden was making it clear that history has shown Presidents face challenges starting on day one, and with our nation fighting two wars and 21st century threats abroad, we know that we need steady leadership in tumultuous times, not the erratic lurching and stubborn ideology of John McCain.”
and another
At a fund-raiser Sunday night in Seattle, Democratic vice presidential nominee Joe Biden predicted that if Obama is elected, "It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy," who authorized the failed Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba three months after his inauguration in 1961, then faced the Cuban missile crisis the following year.
"Watch, we're going to have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy," Biden continued, according to press accounts. "As a student of history and having served with seven presidents, I guarantee you it's going to happen. . . . And he's going to need help."
In similar remarks at another event the same night, Biden quickly added that those who test Obama will quickly find out he has "a spine of steel."
Some food for thought here folks. Be sure to chew thoroughly.
Monday, October 20, 2008
All of PA isn't crazy!
I was getting worried about my home state. Yes, I know, PA is a democratic state but after the insults hurled at PA by it's candidate I wondered why they were still so gung ho to elect him. So I went searching and found this. It's good to know others are more concerned about the country and the well being of it's people than electing Obama simply because he's...well... uh.... democrat.
October 7, 2008
Democratic group backing McCain opens office in Scranton
Topics: Political News and commentaries
Lynn Forester de Rothschild began supporting McCain back in September, but this is the first time I've heard that Jamie Brazil is serving as National Director of Citizens for McCain/McCain Palin. And now the group is opening an office in Scranton PA with the help of Lady Rothschild:
SCRANTON - A major supporter of Hillary Clinton and member of the Democratic National Committee's Platform Committee, on Monday said the Democratic Party has nominated "the worst candidate" while Republicans have nominated the best.
Lynn Forester de Rothschild helped open the Democrats for McCain headquarters on Main Avenue in West Scranton. About 30 supporters turned out to welcome de Rothschild and speak out for the Republican ticket.
"What it came down to was that I decided I love my country more than my party, de Rothschild said, explaining her support of Sen. John McCain and Gov. Sarah Palin. I'm really worried. I do not want (Obama) in the White House."
De Rothschild, 54, said she sees Northeast Pennsylvania - specifically Luzerne and Lackawanna counties - as the key to winning Pennsylvania's 21 electoral votes. And, she said, whoever wins Pennsylvania will likely become the next president.
"Barack Obama has never had the mandate of Democrats," she said. "And Howard Dean and Nancy Pelosi ignored the 18 million people that voted for Hillary Clinton. They can't be surprised at the 5 million to 7 million Clinton supporters who are now supporting McCain."
One organization - "PUMA, which stands for Party Unity My Ass " - has more than 5 million members across the country, she said. Jamie Brazil, a longtime friend of the Clintons and the Rodham family, is serving as national director of Citizens for McCain. Brazil accompanied de Rothschild on her Scranton visit. (emphasis mine)
October 7, 2008
Democratic group backing McCain opens office in Scranton
Topics: Political News and commentaries
Lynn Forester de Rothschild began supporting McCain back in September, but this is the first time I've heard that Jamie Brazil is serving as National Director of Citizens for McCain/McCain Palin. And now the group is opening an office in Scranton PA with the help of Lady Rothschild:
SCRANTON - A major supporter of Hillary Clinton and member of the Democratic National Committee's Platform Committee, on Monday said the Democratic Party has nominated "the worst candidate" while Republicans have nominated the best.
Lynn Forester de Rothschild helped open the Democrats for McCain headquarters on Main Avenue in West Scranton. About 30 supporters turned out to welcome de Rothschild and speak out for the Republican ticket.
"What it came down to was that I decided I love my country more than my party, de Rothschild said, explaining her support of Sen. John McCain and Gov. Sarah Palin. I'm really worried. I do not want (Obama) in the White House."
De Rothschild, 54, said she sees Northeast Pennsylvania - specifically Luzerne and Lackawanna counties - as the key to winning Pennsylvania's 21 electoral votes. And, she said, whoever wins Pennsylvania will likely become the next president.
"Barack Obama has never had the mandate of Democrats," she said. "And Howard Dean and Nancy Pelosi ignored the 18 million people that voted for Hillary Clinton. They can't be surprised at the 5 million to 7 million Clinton supporters who are now supporting McCain."
One organization - "PUMA, which stands for Party Unity My Ass " - has more than 5 million members across the country, she said. Jamie Brazil, a longtime friend of the Clintons and the Rodham family, is serving as national director of Citizens for McCain. Brazil accompanied de Rothschild on her Scranton visit. (emphasis mine)
Way to go NBC!!!
So, it's the Cleveland Browns vs the Washington Redskins. It's the last two minutes of the game and the score is 11 Browns - 14 Redskins. The Browns have the ball and need a field goal to tie and take the game into overtime or a touchdown to win. The teams are lined up, the snap is made, the quarterback has the ball and NBC in their infinite wisdom posts a lottery ticker across the top of the screen. Not just one of those little ones they run across the bottom, which by the way, was going with scores from other games, but a HUGE green ticker that covered the top of the screen, part of the field and some of the players! I'm like WTF!!!! Thank goodness the game was on another channel and Keith new this and changed to that channel, which did not have a stupid ticker over part of the field!!! The Browns didn't make their field goal and lost, but what was NBC thinking? With two minutes to go and a game that close you don't cover up the field with a stupid lottery ticker!!!!! Some of us actually watch the game! Okay...deep breath! sigh...
Friday, October 17, 2008
Doug Stephan - unbelievable!
AT 6 a.m. Good Day with Doug Stephan is on the radio on station 1240 AM. Since there's been a lot of talk about white's, who aren't for Obama being racist, his show broadcast the actual interview with black New Yorkers. During the interviews the interviewer asked what they thought of certain policies of Obama and used policies of McCains. They asked if they were okay with his pro life stance and they said, oh yes! that was why they were voting for him. They asked other questions using McCain's policy such as and you agree with him that we should stay in Iraq until the war ends and not have a time line for withdrawal. Again they said yes, that was another reason why they were voting for Obama. The clincher though was when they were asked if they agreed with Obama's choice of Palin as his running mate and they all agreed Palin was a great choice for Obama. HUH???
Okay, yes, I do know a lot of white people who are voting for McCain, but we discuss issues and we at least know what McCain's are versus Obama's and who each has as their running mate.
I will make no further comment... I will let the interview answers speak for themselves as to who is voting the issues and who is voting race. Not that there aren't whites who won't vote for Obama because he is bi-racial (half black and half white), but it swings both way folks! And those interviews speak volumes!
Okay, yes, I do know a lot of white people who are voting for McCain, but we discuss issues and we at least know what McCain's are versus Obama's and who each has as their running mate.
I will make no further comment... I will let the interview answers speak for themselves as to who is voting the issues and who is voting race. Not that there aren't whites who won't vote for Obama because he is bi-racial (half black and half white), but it swings both way folks! And those interviews speak volumes!
Thursday, October 16, 2008
Now that was a debate!
Finally a real debate worth staying up to watch! And regardless of what the polls are saying John McCain won this one hands down. While he came on as strong and assertive, (oh yes the dems call it whining and attacking), Obama was just as boring and rhetorical as the other two debates (oh yes, the dems call it controlled.) The most powerful line of the night was when John McCain had had enough of Obama making it sound as if it were Bush on that podium instead of him and he turned to Obama and said, "I am not George Bush. If you wanted to run against Bush you should have run four years ago." Slam! Dunk!
Obama kept pushing the negative ad bit, but I had just watched the news that morning where it was pointed out that if you go to fact check you will find Obama ran way more negative ads than McCain. Something like 150 to 8. This is from fact check regarding the debate remarks about negative ads.
It was almost true, for one recent week. Obama was referring to a report by the Wisconsin Advertising Project at the University of Wisconsin that concluded that “nearly 100 percent of the McCain campaign’s advertisements were negative” during the week of Sept. 28 through Oct. 4. During the same week, 34 percent of the Obama campaign’s ads were negative. The Obama campaign was found to have outspent the McCain campaign in nearly all of the competitive states, in some cases by a margin of more than 3-to-1.
McCain’s ads, however, have not been deemed 100 percent negative in other weeks. In fact, in the week after the Republican National Convention, 77 percent of Obama’s ads were negative, according to the advertising project, while 56 percent of McCain’s were negative. So, when the Obama camp is touting that McCain is running the most negative campaign ever, they better check their facts first.
I was glad to see the topic of Ayers brought up and that Obama did not explain it clearly yet. And according to fact check he also lied about his connection with Acorn.
Yes, there were also some misstatements on the McCain side and one was about the real winner last night Joe the Plummer! What a guy! McCain said he was facing higher taxes under Obama's tax plan, but he won't be unless his business makes more than $250,000 a year. Joe the plummers reply was that McCain had it right and what he heard from Obama was that after years of working his ass off to be able to afford this business he was going to be taxed out of it and his hard earned income would be distributed amongst those who don't work hard to like him. And yes, that's exactly what he said. In Zephyrbird's opinion small businesses should be encouraged to grow, be enabled to hire more people, and keep the economy flowing.
Many of my small business owner friends here are ready to cut back on Nov. 5 if Obama is elected because they have studied his tax plan and they are going to get hurt badly! Instead of hiring new employees they will be laying off and in some cases closing up. They see no hope under the Obama tax plan. We already distribute the wealth from the working class to the non working class through welfare, food stamps, etc. Now he wants to socialize everything and it isnt' right, it isn't fair. Do more, as John McCain says, to keep businesses in the states rather than make it impossible for them to make a living here. Taxing people even more when the economy is sinking is just plain dumb! Let's just tax us out of jobs so we all have to go on welfare!
Anyway...I digress from the debate...so while Joe the Plummer was the hot topic and we love ya Joe! John McCain was the clear winner! Keep fighting John! We're fighting behind you!
Do I wish John McCain had said more about why Sarah Palin could step in as president? You bet I do! There was so much more he could have said and for the life of me I don't know why he let that chance slip by. Speaking of Sarah Palin...
...if you don't know about the tshirts at the Obama rally that John McCain was talking about here's the scoop. Tshirts are being worn, at the Obama rallies, that say Sarah Palin is a CUNT. McCain stated he found those tshirts offensive and asked Obama to repudiate the use of them and Obama did not.
Tuesday, October 14, 2008
How to lie with statistics or how to skew the polls
A couple weeks back I received and email from the dialoguepolitics group regarding a PBS run Sarah Palin poll. They were asking all the democrats to go in and vote no that she is not qualified. For some reason they felt this would make it true. They did manage to bring her yes leads to a tie of 49% yes and 49% no, but did not manage to make it an overwhelming majority did not find her qualified.
At that point I was going to do a blog on why polls don't work, but thought if I did I would get comments that it was just sour grapes, etc, since I am a McCain/Palin supporter. My husband teaches statistics and while I can't explain it as well as he can it comes down to how you ask the question, of whom you ask the question, and sometimes where you ask the question. You can form a question in such a way that you can manipulate the answer. Like - have you stopped beating your wife? So,in the meantime....
...the AFA countered by running a poll on whether Barack Obama is qualified. The poll at this point stands at 12,848 yes votes, 263,336 no votes and 2,521 not sure votes. And so now we get this email from dialoguepolitics stating the following.
The problem with both polls is that they allow the same person with the same or different emails to vote more than once (I voted twice on each just to find out, and it seemed as though I could have continued), so neither has any real validity, other than as a propaganda tool.
When I went to the AFA poll, 93,000+ had voted that Obama was not qualified, and some 4,000+ felt that he was (I forget the not sure vote).
Plus, and this applies to both polls, what, exactly does "qualified" mean. My guess is that people on both sides are voting whether they want the candidate in question, qualifications or lack thereof aside."
So I want to thank them for making my point about polls. They aren't reliable, they aren't true, and they can be skewed by who is doing the polling. Please keep this in mind with future polls and don't be so quick to believe it just because someone at a polling place says it's true. Thanks dialoguepolitics for making this point for me. I agree the polls are rarely if ever accurate due to the many ways of skewing the responses.
At that point I was going to do a blog on why polls don't work, but thought if I did I would get comments that it was just sour grapes, etc, since I am a McCain/Palin supporter. My husband teaches statistics and while I can't explain it as well as he can it comes down to how you ask the question, of whom you ask the question, and sometimes where you ask the question. You can form a question in such a way that you can manipulate the answer. Like - have you stopped beating your wife? So,in the meantime....
...the AFA countered by running a poll on whether Barack Obama is qualified. The poll at this point stands at 12,848 yes votes, 263,336 no votes and 2,521 not sure votes. And so now we get this email from dialoguepolitics stating the following.
The problem with both polls is that they allow the same person with the same or different emails to vote more than once (I voted twice on each just to find out, and it seemed as though I could have continued), so neither has any real validity, other than as a propaganda tool.
When I went to the AFA poll, 93,000+ had voted that Obama was not qualified, and some 4,000+ felt that he was (I forget the not sure vote).
Plus, and this applies to both polls, what, exactly does "qualified" mean. My guess is that people on both sides are voting whether they want the candidate in question, qualifications or lack thereof aside."
So I want to thank them for making my point about polls. They aren't reliable, they aren't true, and they can be skewed by who is doing the polling. Please keep this in mind with future polls and don't be so quick to believe it just because someone at a polling place says it's true. Thanks dialoguepolitics for making this point for me. I agree the polls are rarely if ever accurate due to the many ways of skewing the responses.
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